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One of the most important archaeological and anthropological sites in the world, in understanding the earliest known origins of Human-being, comes from a location known as Olduvai gorge in Tanzania, were Oldowan is thought to have first began evolving in to modern human, 1.9 million years ago.
The Olduvai Gorge it has proven invaluable in furthering understanding of early human evolution.
Homo habilis, approximately 1.9 million years agoLink for photo
However, it is likely that Olduwan was born from inter-racial breeding
It appears one of the first things Oldowan man done, was go seeking for lands, perhaps a little cooler in temperature, as Olduwan, 1.8 million years ago first appeared in Georgia, Europe.
In fact, by 1 million years ago, Olduwan man had even turned up in the area that would be considered modern day London.
Pre-history of Europe
Homo erectus georgicus, which lived roughly 1.8 million years ago in Georgia), is the earliest hominid to have been discovered in Europe.Link for photo
Other Oldowans headed for Indonesia.
Homo erectus in Indonesia by 1.8 million yearsLink for photo_without_national_boundaries.svg)
1.5 million years ago, Oldowan man entered Russia, by the Caucasus, which leads in to Scandanavia from the Northern land bridge, which still exists today.
In 2006, 1.5-million-year-old Oldowan flint tools were discovered in the Dagestan Akusha region of the north Caucasus,Link for photo.svg)
China 1.35m years ago
Recent study shows that the stone tools found at Xiaochangliang site are magnetostratigraphically dated to 1.36 million years ago.Link for photo
Return of Oldowan:
It would appear one of Olduwans descendants, likely returned to Africa around, 300,000 BC, via europe. Crossing the Gibraltar straits.
the Acheulean. Possibly the first hunters, H. erectus mastered the art of making fire and was the first hominid to leave Africa, colonizing most of Afro-Eurasia and perhaps later giving rise to Homo floresiensis.
The earliest known Homo sapiens fossils include the Jebel Irhoud remains from Morocco (ca. 315,000 years ago),
Don't take offence:
Ok, now, it is likely that the first modern humans, are still around today, in the exact same form they were then. And today, they are classed as "intelligent modern humans".
They were likely, "the pygmy peoples".
The reason they were likely the same people, as todays pygmy peoples, comes from the knowledge that the Jebel Irhoud, were extremely small in size.
The Jebel Irhoud individuals also had very thick brow ridges and lacked prognathism.Link for photo
Now, anthropoligical studies pretty much prove, that the Magdalenians that inhabited mainland europe between 17,000 BC and the onset of the younger dryas, were the same people as Jebel Irhoud.
The fauna of the Magdalenian epoch seems to have included tigers .Link for photo
The map above does not attribute Southern parts of Britain, to have been colonialised by the Magdalenians, however Britains oldest known skeleton is Cheddar man, believed to be from around 9,100 BC, and also thought by anthropologists, to be black in skin colour.
Cheddar Man is a human male fossil found in Gough's Cave in Cheddar Gorge, Somerset, England. The skeletal remains date to the Mesolithic (ca. 9100 BP, 7100 BC) and dark or dark to black skin.Link for photo
The reason it would have been so easy for the Magdalene to colonise Thames valley, would be due to the fact that, not only would they have the brain capacity to cross the Gibraltar straits, they would also have the advantage of being able to cross the Doggerland land bridge, which had not sunk yet, until 6,500 BC.
Doggerland was an area of land, now submerged beneath the southern North Sea, that connected Britain to continental Europe. It was flooded by rising sea levels around 6500–6200 BC.Link for photo
Pygmy peoples of today, can be found mostly in the Congo region of Africa.
They are a peoples which typically average a height of less than 4 ft 11.
In anthropology, pygmy peoples are ethnic groups whose average height is unusually short. The term pygmyism is used to describe the phenotype of endemic short stature (as opposed to disproportionate dwarfism occurring in isolated cases in a population) for populations in which adult men are on average less than 150 cm (4 ft 11 in) tall.Link for photo
Effacer le Tableau:
Whilst the only noticable difference between you, and a Pygmy person, is their small stature, and the fact that even today, they are hunter gatherers, despite some politically correct Scientists insisting that Pygmy peoples are not descended from Hunter gatherers, the Pygmy peoples have been the victims of repeated attempted genocides and extermination campaigns.
Most recently, January 2003.
Violence against pygmy peoples
From the end of 2002 through January 2003 around 60,000 pygmy civilians and 10,000 combatants were killed in an extermination campaign known as "Effacer le Tableau" during the Second Congo War. Human rights activists have made demands for the massacre to be recognized as genocide.Link for photo
Even "today" the Bantu make no bones about the fact that they are the pygmy peoples "masters".
Perhaps it makes them feel big.
However even "you" have joined in, on Pygmy genocidal bullying, without even knowing it, or have you never used the term "mongo", in your younger years?
Mongo, is a pygmy language, aswell as a Pygmy location.
The word Mongo, should not be used disparagingly.
But unless you want to be part of a genocide campaign, you should also not ban the word from your vocabulary.
Simply use it, respectfully.
To put in to simple terms.
If a pygmy person went on the internet, and told everyone he was a Mongo, he would likely be banned, by a well meaning leftist, that does not realise that, this this person, really is from a village called Mongo, near congo, and speaks Mongo, and banning this person is about the most insulting and racial discriminative thing one could possibly do.
In the Republic of the Congo, where Pygmies make up 2% of the population, many Pygmies live as slaves to Bantu masters. The nation is deeply stratified between these two major ethnic groups. The pygmy slaves belong to their Bantu masters from birth in a relationship that the Bantus call a time-honored tradition. Even though the Pygmies are responsible for much of the hunting, fishing and manual labor in jungle villages, Pygmies and Bantus alike say that Pygmies are often paid at the master's whim: in cigarettes, used clothing, or simply not paid at all.Link for photo.png)
Pygmy language centres
Discimination against pygmy peoples is not new.
Pygmy peoples, even recently, have been sent to live in zoo cages next to Lions and Tigers, and many people view Pygmy peoples, as Paleolithics.
Even in the USA, as early as 1907, they were viewed as a circus act, alongside animals.
Historically, the pygmy have always been viewed as inferior by both colonial authorities and the village-dwelling Bantu tribes. Pygmy children were sometimes captured during the period of the Congo Free State, which exported pygmy children to zoos throughout Europe, including the world's fair in the United States in 1907.Link for photo
Pygmy person in Bronx zoo cage 1906
Even as far back as 2297 BC, a 13 year old Egyptian pharoah named Pepi II, took great delight in capturing a pygmy person, and bragged about to everyone in Egypt.
The Egytians begged him not to kill the pygmy person, but instead bring the Pygmy person back to Egypt.
Likely to be used for entertainment purposes.
Early years of Pepi II's reign
Sent to trade and collect ivory, ebony, and other precious items, he captured a pygmy. News of this reached the royal court, and an excited young king sent word back to Harkhuf that he would be greatly rewarded if the pygmy were brought back alive, where he would have likely served as an entertainer for the court.Link for photo
But what do we learn from this?
We learn that modern humans from 300,000 BC had the potential to be extremely literate, intelligent, and that the idea that even Olduwan may have been an Ape, is simply misguided ancient discrimination and racism, and was genocided, quite simply because he was too stubborn to give up his traditions, and likely lacked physical build in order to stick up for himself against bigots that likely wrongfully viewed him as an illiterate fool.
However Pygmy peoples are regarded by Scientists, as modern humans.
And pygmy peoples, such as Iymeru, have been in even the highest positions of the ancient Egyptian empire.
Iymeru, was the second most powerful man in Egypt, during the 13th dynasty.
He was the Pharoahs vizier.
So much for Pepi II's circus act.
Iymeru was an ancient Egyptian vizier) in office during the 13th Dynasty.Link for photo#/media/File:Statue_Iymeru_Turin.JPG)
However, there is a twist in the tale.
It appears more likley, that the magdalenian Pygmies, "were not" in fact the same pygmy peoples as todays Congo contingent, but in actual fact, were more likely Indian pygmies.
The African pygmies likely took the long way round the world, instead of going directly across the Gibraltar straits.
South east Asia
Frank Kingdon-Ward in the early 20th century reported a tribe of pygmy Tibeto-Burman speakers known as the Taron inhabiting the remote region of Mt. Hkakabo Razi in Southeast Asia on the border of China (Yunnan and Tibet), Burma, and India.Link for photo
The reason it was more likley Indian pygmies, than African pygmies, comes from the fact that there is plenty more evidence, which i will reveal later, of Indian descended people, having colonised Europe, and even America.
Not only this, one of the most common languages in todays world, is Indo-European.
Indo-European likley was a language that evolved over thousands of years, likely in stages, and likley due to pro-longed exposure to one anothers culture.
Indo-Aryan first arose in the Levant around the time of the ancient egyptian empire, when Indians and Aryans colonized lower egypt.
Indo-European evolved when Indo-Aryans invaded India during the battle of the ten kings in 1400 BC.
Though, it was likley that the Aryan language, already contained certain Indo components, by the time the colonized Egypt, and those were probably picked up from the Magdalenian period, when Aryans likely had to invade european mainland to escape the polar ice-caps, and integrated with Megdalenians.
Though, Indian genes in the northern hemisphere even pre-dated the Magdalenians, which i will cover later, so it is also likely, that when the Aryans invaded european mainland, and integrated with Magdalenians, their Aryan language already contained Indo components.
We can also see by the photo of the Philippino girl, how Anthropologists could mistake Cheddar man for being black.
This is due to the fact, that Indians, "are" descended from Africans, so, in a round about way, the Magdalenian "are" African pygmies, though not as directly as one would first think.
It is likley that the Magdalenian arrived in europe via India.
Though they likely made their escape, over the Gibraltar straits, the place were it all began.
Whilst it is actually likely, that modern day human was already living in Scandanavia, and even european mainland, as far back as 300,000 years ago, it is most probably that any evidence of this, was washed away during the younger dryas, when both Britain and Scandanavia, lay under polar ice-caps.
But the first "recorded" movement of modern day humans, comes from 75,000 years ago when Africans first entered the Arabian peninsula.
A 2011 study found that the first modern humans to spread east across Asia left Africa about 75,000 years ago across the Bab-el-Mandeb connecting the Horn of Africa and Arabia.Link for photo
Modern human, from the Arabian peninsula, arrived in India, sometime between 80,000 and 60,000 years ago.
"Modern human beings—Homo sapiens—originated in Africa. Then, intermittently, sometime between 60,000 and 80,000 years ago, tiny groups of them began to enter the north-west of the Indian subcontinent.Link for photo
As Israel was in Mesopotamia, Africans travelling to the Arabian peninsula, Indonesia, or anywhere else, would have no other option than to go through the Levant, making Israel one of the earliest populated areas by modern human.
120,000 years ago.
And almost definitely Black African.
The oldest fossils of anatomically modern humans found outside Africa are the Skhul and Qafzeh hominins, who lived in the area that is now northern Israel 120,000 years ago.Link for photo
The best evidence of what Neanderthal man looked like, comes from very well preserved remains of Neanderthals found in Shanidar cave in Iraq.
The remains were thought to be from between 60,000 and 80,000 years ago, and they do point to a slightly different culture sharing the lands of Mesopotamia, with Africans.
During 1957–1961 Shanidar Cave was excavated by Ralph Solecki and his team from Columbia University, and nine skeletons of Neanderthal man of varying ages and states of preservation and completeness (labelled Shanidar I–IX) were discovered dating from 60,000–80,000 years BP.Link for photo
Neanderthals got a bad rap.
There is no doubt Neanderthal was Asiatic.
And do you remember Pepi II? That wonderful African pharoah that delightfully hunted down a "pygmy" when he was a boy? Well, this African also took great delight in carrying on the honoured age old African tradition of "smiting" Asiatics.
Well racism and discrimination is actually quite prevalent within the ancient egyptian dynasties, and an ancient old traditional practise of native egyptians smiting inferior Asiatics, can be traced back to 3000 BC, during the reign of Den.
The depiction even included a "bearded" foe.
The picture shows Den in a gesture known as "smiting the enemy". In one hand Den holds a mace, in the other hand he grabs a foe by his hair. Thanks to the braids and the conic beard the foe has been identified as of Asian origin. The hieroglyphs at the right side say "first smiting of the east".Link for photo
Now, i am hoping i no longer have to go in to too much detail about how, in actual fact, Scientists now think Neanderthal man was likely literate, and actually extremely intelligent.
In fact, intelligent Africans "would not" interbreed with an idiot.
And Neanderthal man did breed with other humans in this area.
In fact, breeding with Neanderthal man, is likely where Africans gained a bit more bulk from, by breeding with a person that is derived from Northern sub grouos, that have grown to be a bit bulkier in bulk, in order to with stand the cold winters.
He also likely was 50/50 in providing the components that would later evolve in to the AfrAsian language, that is spoken by Semites, and Arabians, as well as some Africans, but nobody knows were it evolved from.
Neanderthal technology is thought to have been quite sophisticated.Neanderthal got cornered in Spain:
Now just like the previous two groups, Neanderthal, being from european mainland, and who still exists today, got cornered in Spain, by this new anatomically modern human-being.
Canadian ethnoarchaeologist Brian Hayden calculated a self-sustaining population which avoids inbreeding to consist of about 450–500 individuals, which would necessitate these bands to interact with 8–53 other bands, but more likely the more conservative estimate given low population density. Analysis of the mtDNA of the Neanderthals of Cueva del Sidrón, Spain, showed that the adult three men belonged to the same maternal lineage, while the three adult women belonged to different ones. This suggests a patrilocal residence (that a woman moved out of her group to live with her husband). However, the DNA of a Neanderthal from Denisova Cave, Russia, shows that she had an inbreeding coefficient of 1⁄8 (her parents were either half-siblings with a common mother, double first cousins, an uncle and niece or aunt and nephew, or a grandfather and granddaughter or grandmother and grandson) and the inhabitants of Cueva del Sidrón show several defects, which may have been caused by inbreeding or recessive disorders.Link for photo
Anatomically modern people:
Now, do you remember the Magdalenians from earlier in this post?
Well here is a photo of Anatomically modern people.
Early modern human
Early modern human (EMH) or anatomically modern human (AMH) are terms used to distinguish Homo sapiens (the only extant human species) that are anatomically consistent with the range of phenotypes seen in contemporary humans from extinct archaic human species. This distinction is useful especially for times and regions where anatomically modern and archaic humans co-existed, for example, in Paleolithic Europe.Link for photo
Early modern human
Neanderthal did not get wiped out:
The early modern human however, did not wipe Neanderthal out.
They shared european mainland with other literate human-beings.
Some of those human-beings, particularly the ones from Britain, that at this point in time, is just a part of Eurasia, probably looked more like this.
Now, Neanderthal not only spread out from Mesopotamia along European lines, and escaped via Spain, but also along Northern lines, before escaping in to Canada via the Bering land bridge, that was around at the time.
However, the remains are no longer considered to be that of Neadnerthal, but in fact, that of Denisovan, the ancestor of Australian aboriginals, as well as Inuits and Paleo-Indians in America, and others.
That Russia was also home to some of the last surviving Neanderthals was revealed by the discovery of the partial skeleton of a Neanderthal infant in Mezmaiskaya cave in Adygea, which was carbon dated to only 29,000 years ago. In 2008, Russian archaeologists from the Institute of Archaeology and Ethnology of Novosibirsk, working at the site of Denisova Cave in the Altai Mountains of Siberia, uncovered a 40,000-year-old small bone fragment from the fifth finger of a juvenile hominin, which DNA analysis revealed to be a previously unknown species of human, which was named the Denisova hominin.Link for photo.jpg)
Now, it is likely that Paleo-Indians lived in europe, relatively peacefully, with one another.
At least until the younger dryas, when blond haired blue eyed Aryans from Scandinavia had to invade European mainland.
It is likely what happened during this period, is Aryans became less friendly, and forced Anatomically modern humans to flee via Spain, go and live in the Northern regions and peripheries as Eskimos in Iglus, or go and breed with the current Indigenous peoples of America and Australia and update their DNA.
When the Ice-caps melted, Scandinavians likely returned to Scandinavia, and pushed the Sami people farther and farther north, until they could go no farther north, and to this day, there is a peoples in the most Northern regions of Scandanavia and Russia that regard themselves as the indigenous peoples of Scandinavia and Russia.
They are called the Sami peoples.
You have likley heard of them, without realising it.
They are Laplanders.
The place Santa Klaus is from.
The Sámi people (/ˈsɑːmi/; also spelled Sami or Saami) are an indigenous Finno-Ugric people inhabiting Sápmi, which today encompasses large northern parts of Norway, Sweden, Finland and the Kola Peninsula within the Murmansk Oblast of Russia. The Sámi have historically been known in English as Lapps or Laplanders. Sámi ancestral lands are not well-defined. Their traditional languages are the Sámi languages which are classified as a branch of the Uralic language family.Link for photo
The Indigenous colonisation of the Americas happened in two waves.
The first was between 57,000 BC and 17,000 BC.
However a Polar Ice wall prevented the first arrivals from prevailing any farther than Alaska.
Migrations in to the continents
Alaska was a glacial refugium because it had low snowfall, allowing a small population to exist. The Laurentide Ice Sheet covered most of North America, blocking nomadic inhabitants and confining them to Alaska (East Beringia) for thousands of years.Second wave:
Just as the Polar ice wall in Alaska was beginning to melt, and the ice-caps began shifting towards Britain and Scandinavia, the Aryans likely came down from the Northern lands, and many Paleo-Indians likely fleed across the melting Bering land bridge and got over just in time, to breed with Indigenous Alaskans, and populate the Americas.
The first inhabitants of North America are generally hypothesized to have migrated from Siberia by way of the Bering land bridge and arrived at least 14,000 years ago.South America:
Obviously some Paleo-Indians made it over the Ice-wall prior to the second wave arriving, as archaeologists are of the belief that South America saw it's first arrivals around 16,500 BC.
The earliest archaeological evidence from human settlement in South America comes from Monte Verde (possibly as early as 16,500 BCE).Isolation:
Until the arrival of the Spanish during the Columbian era, Paleo-Indians would have been pretty isolated, with not too much opportunity for evolving, so the 1500 AD perfectly intact mummified Inca sacrifice, would give a good clue as to what the Paleo-Indians that arrived 14,000 years ago, or even 57,000 years ago, looked like.
Link for photo
The Australian aboriginals have a similar ancestry.
The fact that modern Australian aboriginals have the exact same ancestors as US Indigenous peoples, and were hunter gatherers when Aryans first arrived in Australia, despite making crossings on land bridges on two seperate sides of the globe, is pretty much suggestive that early modern anatomical Indonesians inhabited most of the globe, and were very much literate. And modern, and they in turn were likely descended from a mixture of Israeli Neanderthal and Afro pygmy persons.
Human habitation of the Australian continent is known to have begun at least 65,000 years ago, with the migration of people by land bridges and short sea-crossings from what is now Southeast Asia. The Madjedbebe rock shelter in Arnhem Land is recognised as the oldest site showing the presence of humans in Australia. The oldest human remains found are the Lake Mungo remains, which have been dated to around 41,000 years ago.Greenland:
The Paleo-Indonesians even found their way to Greenland by 2500 BC.
Early Paleo eskimo cultures
In prehistoric times, Greenland was home to several successive Paleo-Eskimo cultures known today primarily through archaeological finds. The earliest entry of the Paleo-Eskimo into Greenland is thought to have occurred about 2500 BC.And the photo just goes to show, the farther North you get, the whiter you get, as ones skin evolves to adapt to the cold.
And when you get even farther north, the redder you get.
Link to photo.jpg)
Greenlandic Inuit couple
But, the point is, that blond haired blue eyed Aryans almost definitely pre-dated the younger dryas, and they moved southward, and any trace of their previous existence was wiped out by one of humanities greatest ever Cataclysms when an entire sub-contentent, and an Island, was cut in half from manland europe.
All this happened between only 6500 and 11,000 BC.
The northward movements that have been attributed to the populating of Britain and Scandinavia, and the sudden appearance of white blue eyed people, was actually a "re-population", and they already lived in those lands previous to that.
They had lived and evolved in those lands, ever since Oldowan turned up in the Thames valley 1 million BC, and 1.5 million BC in Russia.
But until the younger dryas came and wiped any history of them out, they had no real reason to make any significant appearance on european mainland, were archaeological evidence would be preserved.
And that is why the first archaeological evidence of white man only appears after and during the Younger dryas.
However britain was likely not originally inhabited by pure Aryans.
Pure Aryans likely began colonising Britain only after the Northward migrations.
And even then. they likley shared the Island with Greekish looking people, as well as possibly even remnants of Indonesians, and the place likely got divided after Doggerland sank, and Scandinavians eventually began adding Britain to their North sea expansion.
Likely beginning around 3000 BC, with the invention of their Hjortspring boat.
Thousands of rock carvings from this period depict ships, and the large stone burial monuments known as stone ships, suggest that ships and seafaring played an important role in the culture at large. The depicted ships most likely represent sewn plank built canoes used for warfare, fishing and trade. These ship types may have their origin as far back as the neolithic period and they continue into the Pre-Roman Iron Age, as exemplified by the Hjortspring boat.
2020.08.19 17:05 translator-BOT [META] Weekly "Unknown" Identification Thread — 2020-08-19, Week 33
|2020-08-19||[Unknown > English] A pendant I found, possibly Thai or Indonesian?||u/Wolantis|
|2020-08-18||[unknown>English] can someone translate this hat? I got it at goodwill, it says made in Korea on the inside tag and dragon on the adjustable back strap||u/fr33da_|
|2020-08-18||[Unknown > English] Is this something?||u/TheCinematics|
|2020-08-18||[Unknown > english] Found an interesting shirt at the thrift shop today. No idea what it says though||u/ringerofred|
|2020-08-18||[Unkown>English] Opened Pinterest to this frozen screen.||u/TAmericano|
|2020-08-17||[Unknown>English] A painting given to my by a friend. We think it's in a Tibetan script, given the vowel markings. Any help would be greatly appreciated!||u/Fraughtpower02|
|2020-08-17||[Unlnown > English] tattoo translation help please?||u/JemimaJones|
|2020-08-17||[Unknown > English] What language is on this pendant?||u/Killadelphian|
|2020-08-16||[Unknown > English] Unknown Language (If any)||u/Emfisher2|
|2020-08-16||Unknown > English found in tweeter||u/SheepInReddit|
|2020-08-16||[Unknown > English] What does this all mean?||u/KeitaroOW|
|2020-08-16||[Unknown > English] I purchased a sword from a friend and would like to know what the characters on the sword mean.||u/Snozberriesz|
|2020-08-14||[Unknown > English] Does someone know the meaning of this word?||u/ThiagoTHI|
|2020-08-14||[Unknown > English] Can anyone tell me which language this is and maybe what its about? Thanks in advance!||u/julescena|
|2020-08-14||[Unknown > English] Can anybody identify this language? An old picture from my old phones camera roll that I just rediscovered from when I traced something for cake writing at work||u/invaderliz|
|2020-08-14||[Unknown> English] What does it mean?||u/gatoratemylips|
|2020-08-14||[Unknown > English] Unsure of what language (if any) this may be, or even if it’s the right way up. I would be eternally grateful to anyone who can make even a fragment of sense fr||u/bopothrowaway|
|2020-08-14||[Unknown -> English] saw this at Pinterest. It kind of looks like a Scandinavian language!||u/PlantOBeans|
|2020-08-14||[Unknown > English] Found this while cleaning out my late grandparents house. Not sure what it is. Thanks!||u/Night_Hawk21|
|2020-08-13||[Jamaican? > English] This may be dirty I have no clue, have been wanting to figure this out for a while. Loved one wont tell me so had to resort to here||u/RazzUwU|
|2020-08-13||[Unknown > English] A girl I know got this tattoo in Thailand but doesn't know the meaning, can anyone read this?||u/HenceTheTrapture|
|2020-08-13||[Unknown > English] who knowns what´s the language of the song, and what does it say ?||u/TheLonely_Stranger|
|2020-08-13||[unknown> English] I'd like to find a full version of this song, but I have no idea what the language is :(||u/Cbog|
|2020-08-12||[Unknown > English] Can someone help me translate/identify what's on this vintage piece?||u/aazz341|
|2020-08-12||[Unknown>English] If anyone knows what this says, i would appreciate you so much!!||u/StrawberryPunk82|
2020.08.17 17:07 READMYSHIT The Creep Dive Episode Guide
|Date||Title||Cassie||Sophie||Jen||Sidebars and guest stars||Creep of the Week|
|1||12/12/2018||Canoe Believe It??||Alan Rickman never read Harry Potter||John Darwin faked his own death in a canoeing accident||Seamus on ket with Mary McAleese (Twitter thread)|
|2||12/12/2018||GP-OH My God who is SHE||Samantha Azzopardi pays a visit to Ireland. One of many as she scammed her way around the world||An outtake from This is Going to Hurt: Secret Diaries of a Junior Doctor. Woman eats placenta (or blood clots)|
|3||12/12/2018||A Tale Too Tragic||Tania Head, woman who claimed to be a survivor of the attacks on the World Trade Center on September 11||The Juggalos (Insane Clown Posse) Christians in disguise||Reddit Guy meets the Devil. Black Mercedes||Cassie reveals she used to be Born Again Christian. Jen's personal Angel, Happy Acres|
|4||11/01/2019||The American Dream or The American Peen||What Ever Happened To: Lorena and John Wayne Bobbit. (Wife cuts off husband's dick after he raped her)||Swiss cheese Pervert. Man would like a cheesey wank|
|5||11/01/2019||11 Lies and Counting||Warrior Eli. Epic catfish story of a supermom who turned out to be teenager, Emily Dear||Sinead O'Connor and Prince had a pillow fight. Prince takes it too far||Jen first reveals she was a catfish/troll|
|6||11/01/2019||A 17 Year Old Mystery Solved by Sleuths||Mystery of Lyle Stevik's suicide solved by DNA Doe Testing||Ray's Death Documentary (admission of murder). Lady of the Dunes|
|7||25/01/2019||A Story Blown Wildy Out of Proportion||Jimi Heselden segways into the afterlife. Rebba Burger maimed and killed from a whipped cream thing||Lambo. Weird radio book review, hosted by Gay Byrne in which Gery Ryan allegedly kills a lamb||A man fashions a flying saucer with helium balloons and sends his son flying off for attention|
|8||01/02/2019||An Unholy Hypocrite, The Dungarvan Angel of Death Travis the Troubled Teen||David Matheson, former gay conversion therapist, comes out as gay||Fr Michael Kennedy fakes an AIDS epidemic in Waterford. Gets the attention of Princess Diana||Travis, the chimp and Creep Dive mascot (a classic!)|
|9||09/02/2019||The Greatest Writer that Never Was||James Frey, A Million Little Pieces (fake memoir)||Story of JT LeRoy (racoon penis)||Dan Mallory (fake memoir)|
|10||15/02/2019||The Randy Mr. Hands||How Joe Manuella Found Love, Robert De Niro impersonator||Mr. Hands! Guy gets killed from bottoming a horse||Ellen Coyne and Cassie become friends via Twitter|
|11||22/02/2019||The Curious Case of Crack Addict Jimmy(part 1)||The Girl Who Predicted Her Own Death||Tickling endurance competitions funded my some omnipotent millionaire (who obviously has a fetish)|
|12||22/02/2019||The Curious Case of Crack Addict Jimmy (part 2)||That time the Washington Post had a Pulitzer briefly. Janet Cooke and the 8 year old heroin addict|
|13||01/03/2019||The Fine Line Between Exoneration and Execution||The story of Cameron Todd Willingham (a innocent man sentenced to death)||Pissing and menstrating in the Stuart era (not Victorian, Jen)|
|14||08/03/2019||The MSN Murder Mystery||Momo: Online Suicide Game||MSN Murder. Girl kill herself after online bullying, turns out to be a neighbourhood mom||Elizabeth and Theranos|
|15||15/03/2019||Who Let the Cat Out||The Noid, the Domino's mascot that led to a murder||Mary Bale: Cat in the Wheelie Bin||Topsy the Elephant: Tesla vs Edison|
|16||22/03/2019||Oyster Man, A Salacious Sausage Fest and A Con Confidence (Creep Live #1)||Nicholas Barclay AKA Frédéric Bourdin (missing child imposter)||Armin Meiwes, German cannibal||Oyster Man (Dublin creep!)|
|17||01/04/2019||A Haunted Hormonal Teen, A Slender Bender, A Mother Love to Death (Creep Live #2)||Dee Dee Blanchard murder by her daughter, seemingly incapacitated, Gypsy Rose.||Enfield Haunting, poltergeist in a North London council house||Slenderman possee|
|18||05/04/2019||Who is Timmothy Pitzen??||Disappearance and reappearance (???) of Timmoth Pitzen||Christine Chubbuck, suicide on live TV||Ford has a horn for Edison|
|19||12/04/2019||The Beautiful Lie||Florida Man, pancake guy||Belle Gibson, noted scammer||Coco the Gorilla: artist, photographer and communicator|
|20||21/04/2019||There's a Catfish in the Water||Lincoln Lewis catfish, Lydia Abdelmalek||The most awkward book club of all time||Girl with no vainga gets impreganted from a knife|
|21||27/04/2019||A Sasquatch, A Tinder Date With a Cannibal and The Life and Ruin of Anna Nicole Smith||The Anna Nicole Smith Story||Sasquatch Origin Story|
|22||04/05/2019||Friends From The College Cult||Larry Ray: Creepy Dad Cult||Whatever Happened to Baby Tyler?|
|23||11/05/2019||A Love As Deep As The Sea, A Shared Twinsanity and Better The Catfish You Know?||Sabina & Ursula: Murderous Swedish Twins||Suicide of Megan Meier||Some people really love dolphins|
|24||18/05/2019||The Cat’s Out of The Bag for The Internet’s Maddest Man||A Catfish Love Triangle (that ends in murder)||The Luka Magnotta Story||Jeremy Kyle|
|25||27/05/2019||The Secret Russian ‘Super Army’ and A Fertility Doctor Who Took Things Into His Own Hands||Dr. Cline, fertility doctor who takes matters into his own hands||Russian science experiment to create super humans (humanzee)||Belle Gibson update (ep. 19)|
|26||01/06/2019||Larry and The Lawnchair of Dreams||The eponymous Larry, an instant classic creep (that is not creepy at all)||Moby|
|27||07/06/2019||The World’s Worst Baby Snatcher and The Ill-Prepared Cannibal||Another Catfish Love Triangle and Baby Heist||Isa Sagawa: A Cannibal in Paris|
|28||15/06/2019||Why You Should Never Let Granny Do The Ouija Board||Story of Anna Delvy, epic swindler||Ouija Board Murder||Whale dick tentacle and the guy who honours a dead murderer (Twitter Thread)|
|29||21/06/2019||A Dead Man, A Cipher, a Mystery||Somerton Man: Mystery Australian Man and an Undeciphered Code||Ariel Castro kidnappings||Delivery Man Haunts Cabin||Groom kids on brides dress|
|30||28/06/2019||It’s Never Plain Sailing||The Disappearance of Brian Swanson (into another dimension?) #blueball||A shark buffet||Juliane Koepcke, the sole survivor of a plane crash that left her stranded in the Amazon Rainforest||Boris Johnson|
|31||07/07/2019||The Lost Family, The Last Eunuch and the Lust for the High Life||Tromp Family Road Trip. Australian family collectively lose their mind||A Philanthropic Couple with a Secret in the Attic||Sun Yaoting; the last Eunuch of China.|
|32||11/07/2019||A Trio of Clones, Coercion and Courtship||A shitty first-date||The McDonald's-Nude Heist||The phenomenon of a group of self cloning crayfish|
|33||19/07/2019||Brain-Eating Zombies, The Boy Who Tried to Blow Up Bjork and a Beary Bad Idea||Story of Björk's would-be assassin||Timothy Treadwell: Bear Enthusiast||Furries and Brain eating zombie fungus||Grunting man in a gimp suit|
|34||27/07/2019||A Priceless Love Affair and Something of a Pickle||Debbie Montgomery Johnson get defrauded millions in an online dating scam||Peeing and pooping in space. Creepy nudes escalates quick (to murder)|
|35||04/08/2019||Jen’s Solo Ghost Story||the tale of Dear David, a creepy child ghost who has been haunting the hallways of illustrator Adam Ellis||Horse Girl|
|36||11/08/2019||When a Dream Life Turns Into a Weird and Creepy Nightmare||Dream House goes sour with letters from an ominous writer called, The Watcher||Mystery Stripper||Jen has the inside scoop on Area 51||Scout's arrival! Woof||Canadian Serial Killers|
|37||18/08/2019||The Hero Who Didn't Know His Name and a Real Life Dr. WHO??||Story of Jean-Claude Romand: Murderer and Imposter||Creep Dine With Me: Megan and Hazel. The story of Steven Stayner|
|38||01/09/2019||Don't Bookmark Your Murder Tips and a Real Life Mission Impossible||How to not get away with murder (Daniel Brophy)||Personal creep with creepy neighbour and a never ending gift exchange||A missionary who get murdered by the Sentinelese|
|39||09/09/2019||A Twist in The Tale, The Devil Down Under and A Wild Slide||A Catfish With a Happy Ending||Mysterious Death of Phoebe Handsjuk||Deal the Devil Downunder,Story of Michael Atkins and Matthew Leveson|
|40||13/09/2019||Move Over Travis, There’s a Bad Badger in Town and The Sad Tale of The Sorry Cannibals||Caroline Calloway content!||Alive: The reluctant cannibals||The antics of Stoffel the honey badger|
|41||20/09/2019||British Fairies, Irish Con Artists and Asian Angels||Cassie's Personal Creep and Misadventure in Berlin (featuring Moe)||An Irish Kidnapping||The Cottingley Fairy Hoax|
|42||28/09/2019||When a loving Christian family inadvertently adopt a 22 year old sociopath with violent tendencies||The tale of Natalia Grace, a Ukrainian Orphan with dwarfism #childdeception||Helen Bailey: Author who penned her own death||Jacob Barnett, Child Prodigy|
|43||06/10/2019||The Girl...Who Laughed...As A Man Got Sewn Into The Body of a Horse||Story of Nathan Carman and a Sunken Boat||A Runaway Bride||Countess Elizabeth Báthory, World worst female serial killer?||Carl Beach, Richard Madely|
|44||15/10/2019||What Happens When You Exorcise a Mild Mannered Michael? (Creep Live #3)||Ireland's Own Bermuda Triangle||An exorcism gone wrong||Goose on the Loose! A goose named Andy|
|45||21/10/2019||A Guest Ghost Story and The Haunted Spots of Dublin||Dutch Family in a Basement (and assorted ghost stories)||Creep Dine With Me: Fainche. A Dublin 8 Haunting|
|46||26/10/2019||The Tragedy of the Triplets||A tragic tale of triplets and a social experiment||Haunted Nazi Dummy|
|47||31/10/2019||A Catfish Convict, Dawn of The Ed and a Goat Gets Giddy for Piss - It’s our Halloween Spooktacular!||Rape Ads, Fake Sonograms, and a Catfisher’s Web of Lies||Ed Gein, his mother and the inspiration for Psycho||A goat with a penchant for piss (human piss)|
|48||12/11/2019||An Amuse Bouche of Creep Catch Ups AND The Human Baby Zoo||Update on Belle Gibson (ep. 19)||Canadian Quintuplets (Human Baby Zoo)||Update on Ukrainian Orphan (ep. 42)||T.I. (obsessed with daughter's hymen)|
|49||17/11/2019||The Greatest No-Show-Man and the Mighty Meaty Murderer||Threatin, metal band on world tour (with no audience but great hair)||Joe Metheny: a mighty meaty murder #serialkiller||Donegal Creeps caught climbing a hospital to ouija|
|50||25/11/2019||Oh No! Where Did Moe Go?||Moe Davis: Another chimp fiasco. Travis 2.0 (ep. 8)|
|51||03/12/2019||A Haunted Galway Baby, a Mystery Man in Sligo and The Spine Tingling Story of the Sleepless Russians (Creep Live #4)||Peter Bergmann, a mystery man in Sligo reminiscent of Somerton Man (ep. 29) #blueball||Haunted Galway baby #haunted||Russian sleep deprivation experiment (this is pretty harrowing)||Harry meets the Creeps for the first time||Dick Dicker: Unabomber meets Mr. Hands|
|52||06/12/2019||A Life Heavy on Lies, Light on Lols||Jennifer Pan, a Vietnamese-Canadian teen kills her parents (well one of them)||Dave, the randy duck|
|53||17/12/2019||The Woman Who Accidentally Solved Her Own Mystery Disappearance||Netty Nance accidently solves her own kidnapping (spoiler: it was her own "mother")||Carlos Mariotti and a novel idea to save his mangled hand (spoiler: it doesn't work)||Public Universal Friend. First recorded case of non-binary person?||Mommy blogger swindles Shauna Sex Síopa!|
|54||05/01/2020||The Cannibal Cop and A January Assortment of Creeps||Cassie tricks a girl into think she's going to Disney||Gilberto Valle, the cannibal cop, caught via chat room #cannibal||People used to post their kids around!||Jeffrey Epstein. German ladies who set a zoo ablaze and killed 20 primates|
|55||10/01/2020||Too Many Mothers, Too Much Motherly Love and A Small Town Scandal with Massive Consequences Creep Live #5)||Bobby Dunbar went missing but when he reappeared to mothers came forward to claim||Barbara Daly Baekeland gets murdered (and fucked?) by her son #murder #incest||The mysterious Circleville letters #murder #blueball||Jen gets send a video of a man fucking a chicken||Tiny Indonesian man convicted of the most amount if rapes|
|56||17/01/2020||Three Cheers for Murder||Dying killing to be popular. Cheer leader murder!||Karla Homolka, Canada's only female serial killer (this was just an off the cuff creep)||One of our very own creepettes has their dog fucked by some local scoundrel :(||Cork Christmas Party Shenanigans!|
|57||25/01/2020||Your Mother Sucks Creep In Hell||True Stories behind the production of The Exorcist||Jen creeps her own parasite which she definitely didn't get in Centra Parcs||Terry McMahon goes on a tirade by his feminist daughter|
|58||31/01/2020||You Can't Make A Dick Out Of The American Penal System||Steven Jay Russell, amazing story of the man who escaped from prison multiple times||Andrea Mara; the man who faked his MIL out the car window, armchair sleuths and just how dire your Google search history gets when you kill fictional people for a living||Belle Gibson update! She's Muslim now (ep. 19)|
|31/01/2020||The Creep Hive #1||Jen helps her housemate pee in New Zealand||Tampon Girl!!|
|59||07/02/2020||Who’s side are you on?||Story of Ursula Hermann: the German equivalent of Madeleine McCann. Epic creep||Sophie admits she ate a raw rasher thinking it was parma ham||Some people have non-verbal thought (mini Twitter thread)||Graham Linehan (Glinner)|
|07/02/2020||The Creep Hive #2: The Casualties of The Swan||The Sur-jury, The Swan and other horrific reality shows|
|60||14/02/2020||A Prince and a Perfect Murder||Chris Benoit Canadian wrestler. Double murder suicide||Shawna from Sex Siopa to share a big juicy salacious royal affair.||A lot of creeps reported their mothers fed them raw sausages|
|15/02/2020||The Creep Hive #3: Schofe's done a runner||Cassie discusses her sexuality and everyone cries||"Showgirls came out at a very key point in my life"||Phillip Schofield literally does a runner|
|61||21/02/2020||The world’s most badass backpacker, Ireland’s biggest ever manhunt and hotdog handjobs (Creep Live #6)||Brendan O'Donnell: Ireland's Biggest Manhunt #serialkiller||Kari Ferrell: Hipster Grifter. Gets employed by Vice and exposed||Salt Creek Kidnapping. Backpackers take revenge #violence||All dogs and the Dublin guy faked an abduction of an elderly person|
|22/02/2020||The Creep Hive #4: Never trust a Murphy Bed||Dead tired, people who've died in Murphy beds!|
|62||28/02/2020||And it was all cum and paper mâché (Creep Live #7)||Gerard John: some local prisoners pose as a young woman and blackmail and fragile young man.||Alex Malarkey goes into a coma after a car accident. When he wakes he claims to have met Jesus in Heaven...||Man struggles to keeping his wife suitably embalmed||Jen discusses laying eggs||Katie Hopkins getting the CUNT award|
|01/03/2020||The Creep Hive #5: Hope Springs Terminal||Duffy was kidnapped :(||Psychologist hides camera on women with Munchausen||Jen says I brought poppers to a live show but it was Cool Swan. Twitter thread about guys pissing in their mouths||Sarah, the creep transition year student tells us about Hope Ybarra, Munchausen mom||Carlow Judicial System. 73 year old mad jailed for ramming car parked on path|
|63||07/03/2020||Hike Life Nightmare and The OG Love is Blind||Sun Myung Moon and the Church of Unification. It's the Moonies!||A Russian Misadventure. 9 hikers die mysteriously in the northern Ural mountains||Youtuber faked his girlfriend's death. 21 year old Stephanie impersonates her granny (after she's murdered)|
|07/03/2020||The Creep Hive #6: Joint custody||Cassie meets LeBron James||Joint Custody. John Wood mummifies his own leg. The ultimate creep craft.|
|64||13/03/2020||The OG Disease Spreader: It's Typhoid Mary||Sherry Pie turns out to be a super creep (in a really bad way) and has now caused an editing nightmare for producers.||Typhoid Mary, famed asymptomatic carrier||Putin brings in a new law so he can rule for forever.|
|13/03/2020||The Creep Hive #7: CAVERN OF PUSS||Cassie worked in a residential care home. Patient double dosed a suppository which "activated" as Cassie helped her into a wheel chair.||PERI-RECTAL ABSCESS. Arguably one of the most disgusting creeps of all time|
|65||20/03/2020||A mad story about a mad (cow) disease, a smooth criminal and an underground mission with hilarious consequences||Dan Cooper Hijacked a Boeing 727 aircraft in the northwest of the US; jumps out with thousands of dollars and is never seen again||Mad Cow Disease and Doctor Daniel Carleton Gajdusek who goes to "help" Papua New Guinea and turns out ot be a paedophile||School boys finds a secret warren under their school... A misadventure ensues|
|20/03/2020||Creep Live Online #1: A Town of Ticking Teenagers, Serial Turder and Mayhem at The Spa||Mystery illness takes over town in North New York||Sophie's top 3 getting stuck in toilet stories||Woman gets naked and lost in spa|
|27/03/2020||Creep Live Online #2: The most haunted creep of the year|
|66||29/03/2020||Crafting conspiracies, cult clans and the game show killer||Big Crafting is actually a Russian Propaganda Machine||Rodney Alcala serial rapist, killer and gameshow contestant||Taina Licciardo-Toivola: Annoying Aryian Cult family on YouTube|
|67||07/04/2020||The long (penis) and short (life) of your favourite covid meme and the mighty Michael that would not die||Michael Malloy, the sturdy Irish fella in New York who proved to be un-murderable (well, almost||Wardy Joubert, everyones favourite (well-endowed) naked covid meme (who's dead)||Harry offically appointed alpha creep!|
|68||12/04/2020||More Tiger King, a YouTube Doll Debacle and Did Sophie Find D.B. Cooper?||Inspired by recent haunted dolls on the hive, Cassie dives into internet sensation, Venus Angelic||The Stars of Tiger King: An Epilogue|
|69||19/04/2020||Snitches get stitches and when internet comments destroy lives||Would you provide an alibi for a loved one? Trevor Hardy - The Beast of Manchester (and his brother)||The Inception of FaceBook Commentary: tangled history of internet smear campaign||Kelsey Grammar maybe into pegging||"It's very unfortunate for the mens. Their G-spot is up their ass hole and they're just going to have to get over it." -Cassie Delaney||Eamon Holmes (5G) and the gardaí (posting photos of sun bathers)|
|70||26/04/2020||In The Shadow of the Truth Lies the Statue of Liberty||Bling Water! Your water is dead, you fools||Lisa helps Sophie with a follow up to Molly from Sophie's previous creep||The Mandela Effect. Are we all in hell/purgatory/multiple dimensions/simulated world||This episode has more filler than actual creeps but was no less enjoyable. Sophie, my handle is @Harry_birdboy. Cassie, I'll hug you!||Gemma O'Doherty|
|71||06/05/2020||Shipman the shit man||Crimes that happen in the virtual world that cross over into reality and suicide pact community killer||Harold Shipman, world's most prolific (and boring) serial killer||Gemma O'Doherty again (but she gets owned by Dublin airport on Twitter)|
|72||12/05/2020||Beta Theta Pi? More like Beta Theta Die and the Glow Up with Deadly Consequences||Beta Theta Pi, Penn State University. Hazing ends in death :(||Sophie loves horror. Tells the real life story behind Scream. (Impromtu creep!)||Radium Girls!|
|73||19/05/2020||Walk like a reincarnated Egyptian also that time a squirrel ate some guys nuts||Dorothy Eady, the reincarnation of an Egyptian priestess.Cassie is mean to her mother||Creep Confectionary is now a thing. Sophie seeds the idea for a Toast Podcast. Sophie presents a gaggle of gals cat-fishing some terrorists||Man gets balls eaten by squirrels||Jen and Sophie want to host their own Most Haunted. Cassie protests, as usual||Camilla and Prince Charles talk dirty|
|74||26/05/2020||Don't anger a Karen, canal creeps and the parents who put the kid in kidnapping||Shannon Matthews, Karen Matthews has her own daughter kidnappped while she plays Xbox||Belle Gibson update! She is now Oromo (an Ethiopian ethnic minority). Katherine Knight and her human pelt||Riding in a tent on the canal|
|75||02/06/2020||Freezin’ people ain’t easy, the genuinely geriatric mother and the biggest creeps of the week ever||The YouTubers that rehomed their son||The oldest woman in the world to give birth (oyster woman). 40 year old stone foetus!||Jen finally gets to tell her cryogenics story. Multple strands||See Cassie|
|76||09/06/2020||No name, No luggage, No labels, No answers||1.) In a room at the Oslo Plaza Hotel, a young, elegant woman is found dead, with a gun shot wound to the head. Why did she check in under a false name? Why are the labels removed from her clothes? 2) Death in Ice Valley||The gals are reunited!|
|77||16/06/2020||Guilt or grief? The dark story of Casey Anthony||Via Reddit/Sarah. Creepy MSN guy and possibly related swindler||Casey|
|78||23/06/2020||Slumber Murders and The OG Moby Dick||Sleep killers||The OG Moby Dick|
|25/06/2020||Creep Hive||Sophie's Cock Along!||Denis Nilsen:ScottishSerial Killer (and middle child)|
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2020.07.31 17:01 scintillation98 New VTubers From an Indonesian Based VTuber Agency
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Silhouettes & debut dates of the 3 new VTubers from MAHA5
MAHA5 (Maha Panca) is a VTuber agency based in Indonesia. I could not find any other useful information about this agency beside a guess that it's probably founded by Andi Adinata.
Its current talents are:
Link to the new VTubers:
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The United Nations says there are about 5,000 honor killings each year and nearly all go unreported.
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2020.05.31 18:40 Shankism2 It's been over a week, the funeral is done. Here's Hana Kimura's obituary from Dave Meltzer.
The death of Hana Kimura this past week is a complicated story about reality shows, the worst aspects of social media and cyber bullying, and likely with the unique aspects of the time we are living in.submitted by Shankism2 to WrestleWithTheJoshis [link] [comments]
The end result was the suicide death of a 22-year-old woman who had high-level stage presence and a unique look, and was likely to explode in 2020 had this been a normal year, as the most marketable and biggest star in Japanese women’s wrestling.
The story has far wider implications in so many different ways than most pro wrestling stories. Its repercussions, besides her own death, include the possibility of the end of a popular worldwide television show, and even more, talk in Japan about enacting new legislation that would make cyber bullying a more serious crime. While obviously a huge news story in Japan, it garnered a lot of mainstream attention in the U.S. due to the popularity of the television reality show “Terrace House.”
“Terrace House,” the show she was a cast member in, was a major prime time show on the Fuji TV Network, where it usually drew five to six million viewers. But it also had a large following outside of Japan, on Netflix, where it airs with English subtitles. Netflix doesn’t release viewer numbers, but the show was said to have delivered numbers well above what was expected for that type of a show.
On 5/22, the day of her death, Terrace House and Hana Kimura was the most searched topic in the U.S. on the Internet, with more than 500,000 searches, just ahead of Joe Biden
Kimura was suffering from bad depression for some time even as her wrestling career was on its ascent. She had mutilated her arms and cut her wrists in the past.
The turning point was an incident on the reality show where people wanting to be celebrities are put together with both scripted and unscripted scenarios to attempt to create relationships and relationship dramas. By American reality show standards, “Terrace House” is actually quite tame and the incident that led to her death would be at best a minor talking point on a show like “Jersey Shore” a few years ago.
Kimura was on the show starting in September, considered a major coup by the Stardom promotion to get her a mainstream following with the goal of making her and Giulia the two biggest stars in the company. The idea was to create a mainstream star in what is right now a very niche genre and expose her to a large network prime time television audience. Although very pretty and charismatic, because of her muscular shoulders as compared to most Japanese women, she stood out for her look as compared to some of the other women celebrities. While outgoing on the pro wrestling stage, in real life she was shy, and noted being very inexperienced in relationships with guys. That was actually part of her charm in the early weeks. Her character was viewed very positively in the early episodes.
It should be noted that Kimura went through a lot of bullying when she was growing up. Her mother, Kyoko Kimura, was a woman pro wrestler who competed a lot in death match style. Hana Kimura was of mixed ethnicity. Her father, who split from her mother and her when she was one, was Indonesian, so she was half-Japanese and half-Indonesian. This gave her unique features, but while growing up in school she was taunted over being different.
She grew up around pro wrestling, attending shows with her mother. She even won the DDT Ironman Heavymetalweight comedy title in 2005 (think WWE 24/7 title) at a show in Tokyo when she was eight years old. She immediately lost it to her mother.
Because of wanting to be a pro wrestler, she lifted weights and had, as compared to a usual Japanese woman, big shoulders and athletic arms and legs, but when people turned on her, they was mocked for that as well.
“Obviously Hana is very beautiful,” said one person close to her to us regarding the show. “But on the show, she is like twice the size of the other girls. And on the show, and in real life, she is very self-conscious because she has huge muscular shoulders compared to the other girls. And Terrace House fans also bullied her about that kind of stuff. It seems silly, because she is a very pretty girl, but it just goes to show that anyone can have self-confidence issues. You’d think from the looks of it, this girl would have it all. Very obviously she’s the one being pushed to lead her company.”
During the filming of the show, Kimura, a male comedian cast member named Kai, and two others, Yume and Sacho, went on a double date in Kyoto. Kai talked his career and showed a romantic interest in Kimura. But he was broke and when they did the double date, he didn’t pay for it because he didn’t have any money. Sacho, who owns a business and wanted the idea of a double date because of his interest in Yume, was willing to pay for it. Kimura was mad at Kai for not paying for the date in their Air BnB rental when in a bath with Yume, the other woman.
Some fans of the show were mad because they wanted Kimura & Kai to hook up and it was clear that wasn’t going to happen.
But the actual storyline came later, in a show taped during the week of 1/19 to 1/25, and aired on 3/31.
Kimura had put her wrestling costume that she had been using of late in the washing machine. Kai put his own clothes in the washing machine. He then came back and threw his clothes and her wrestling costume in the dryer, which shrank it and ruined it.
When she found out, she started yelling at him, saying this was the ring costume she wore on 1/4 at the Tokyo Dome on the biggest match of her life and the costume had so many memories for hear and it was like her life. She yelled at Kai and basically slapped his hat off his head because at first he wasn’t apologetic.
She last wore the outfit on the 1/19 show in Tokyo and wore an older outfit on the 1/26 show. She had confided in friends that something happened on the show and she was worried that the public would not like the way she came off. There was a report that Kai and Kimura had made up but that it didn’t air on the show. Then, due to COVID-19, the show shut down production so this was the lasting impression of her.
She was bombarded with hate over social media. Whether no more filming of episodes (the show had continue on Fuji television with the final episode on 5/19 before this week’s episode and the rest of the season was canceled but new footage had not been shot in a few months), plus her regular routine of wrestling was shut down and taken away. It may have taken away a means to cope with the depression, and things got much worse.
It should be noted that all the negative messages, including her getting messages daily saying she should die, came from Terrace House viewers and not from the wrestling fan side. But a tiny but hurtful percentage of wrestling fans are no different which why this touched such a nerve in wrestling, particularly among women performers. She was constantly being told if her costume meant so much to her, why did she leave it in the washing machine.
There were fans who sided with her as well, who saw that the frustrations between the two had been building and that Kai shouldn’t have just nonchalantly put his clothes in and then put everything in the dryer without noticing it was her unique wrestling gear. Others were negative to her about leaving her gear in the washer and that she shouldn’t have been so rude. It got to the point where Kimura disabled all comments on her Instagram because she was getting so much hate. In a later episode, Kai left the house and tried to make up with her by paying her the costs of making a new outfit. When he left the house, everyone gave him a goodbye hug except her, which also villainized her since to a lot of the women viewers, he was a popular character.
“Terrace House” is a tamer version of the type of shows where good looking young men and women are put together with the idea of people watching romances and drama. The show was in its fifth season, and titled, “Terrace House Tokyo: 2019-2020.”
Instead of drinking parties and exotic locations, it’s people who want to become bigger celebrities in a house doing mundane things on a daily basis, more like real life, grocery shopping, cooking, cleaning, going to restaurants, watching TV and exploring each others’ day jobs. The cast members come and go, but it’s always three women and three men, young, good looking and if one leaves, a member of the same sex will replace them. The show had great critical acclaim in both the U.S. and Japan, where it was said to be far more real than most reality shows, and sometimes was called a reality show that will appeal to people who hate reality shows. But the idea is romances still spring up.
Kimura was focused on in an episode where all the cast members came to watch a Stardom show. She then explained what pro wrestling was to the other cast members afterwards. She talked about the struggles of working as a woman wrestler, misconceptions about women wrestlers and her struggles with balancing her unique job and real life.
There are no scripts, but producers do come up with storylines. The cast is not in the house full-time, but usually two or three days per week and when they are together, the producers tell the cast what they are looking for. They are told they want romances, but the cast members often come up with their own romances through real life as opposed to the romances being scripted. While this was not the case in the season she was on, but it came out in previous seasons that cast members would get a 50,000 yen ($466 U.S.) bonus for kissing scenes.
“I was told if I become famous or join Terrace House, receiving slander was unavoidable and it’s the tax of being a celebrity,” posted Ryo Tawatari, who was a cast member with Kimura, before leaving the show in February. “But is it really right? Honestly speaking, I receive lots of slander every day. Other members are in agony too.”
Emika Mizuokoshi, who was also on the show with Kimura, said she also received messages telling her to die.
“I was also slandered after joining Terrace House and was hurt,” said Mizuokoshi on Instagram. “But we are on TV, are all humans and have feelings. Words can be deadly weapons. We have to end this trend where you can say anything to so-called famous people.”
It was told to us from someone close to her that they knew the negative social media response was bothering Kimura and that in recent weeks it had gotten worse.
However, nobody had any sign her depression reached the level it did.
Kimura at first came across like a very nice young woman, similar to comments from foreign wrestlers who worked with her and said how sweet she was, how she loved to help them while they were in a foreign country and loved to practice her English with them. She could speak English very clearly, but only certain words and phrases and did not have a complete understanding of the language.
Bea Priestley from AEW, who lives in Japan most of the year with Will Ospreay, considered Kimura as one of her best friends.
Kimura expressed when she joined the show that she wanted people to learn to like women’s pro wrestling through her.
She said that she didn’t have much experience with boys growing up and had trouble expressing her real feelings for boys she had a crush on. That played out during her time on the show, a cute shyness but sometimes that inexperience manifested itself more negatively in front of the cameras.
At times she came across immature and complaining, and cried on the show. Some labeled her a crybaby. Instead of being able to be shown growing from that experience, the show stopped filming and that was the last the public saw of her, and the negative comments continued.
It seemed to be a cocktail of many things. The bullying from childhood leading to insecurity. Her wanting to become a mainstream star to make women’s wrestling popular again like it was more than 25 years earlier. A television show that emphasized her weaknesses on screen. Perhaps the pressures of knowing that she was chosen to be the person whose would the focal point of a company aggressively trying to bring back to glory days of the past under new ownership, and trying to live up to that status while perceiving she wasn’t coming across well on the television show.
And then COVID-19 came, shutting down both the filming of the television show and her work as a pro wrestler, where she got the positive reinforcement from the crowd constantly for her ability to shine as a performer in front of a live audience.
Late at night on the morning of 5/23 in Japan (5/22 in the U.S.), Kimura posted images of her arm that she had self-mutilated, which was covered by her ring costume when she had wrestled. She was there with her pet kitten, and basically did a farewell note on both Twitter and Instagram.
On twitter she wrote, “Nearly 100 frank opinions every day. I couldn't deny they hurt me. `Die,’ `You are disgusting,’ `You should disappear.’ I believed these things about myself more than they did. Thank you, Mother, for the gift of life. My whole life I wanted to be loved. Thank you to everyone who supported me. I love you all. I'm sorry for being weak.”
On Instagram, she posted photos of her with her pet cat, whether directed at her cat or her friends was not clear, which said, “Good-bye. I love you, have fun and live a long time. I'm sorry.”
This drew a ton of immediate attention throughout the U.S. pro wrestling community with people obviously panicking and questioning what was going on. In Japan, where everyone was asleep, people in that community were not at first aware of it.
Kaori Housako (Kairi Sane) had either seen the posts herself or been alerted immediately. She called up Stardom founder and CEO Rossy Ogawa, and I believe Jungle Kyona. It was Kyona who rushed to the apartment that Kimura lived alone in, but it was too late.
Sponichi News in Japan reported that at around 4 a.m., which would be 3 p.m. on 5/22 Eastern time, some fire engines and an ambulance rushed into her apartment. Her death was believed to be a suicide due to the ingestion of hydrogen sulfide. The Koto Police Department’s Metropolitan department acknowledged a hydrogen sulfide fatality at 4 a.m., but further details were not released at the request of the family.
According to police sources in the Japanese media, Kimura was found on her bed with a plastic bag covering her head. A container of what was believed to have been hydrogen sulfide was found nearby. Several different suicide notes were found in the room.
There was a piece of paper attached to the door that read, “Toxic gas being generated,” according to Kyodo News.
There was another note addressed to her mother saying, “Thank you for giving birth to me.”
The news of her death hit the U.S. about nine hours later, as it was 12:10 a.m. Eastern time when Stardom reported, “We are very sorry to report that our Hana Kimura has passed away. Please be respectful and allow time for things to process, and keep your thoughts and prayers with her family and friends. We appreciate your support during this difficult time.”
The kitten, named Karage, which means fried chicken ball, because Kimura thought he looked like a fried chicken ball, was being taken care of in the Stardom wrestlers dormitory.
“For everyone who cheered, befriended and loved Hana, I am sorry I could not protect her,” wrote her mother, Kyoko Kimura. “I am sorry we now have this painful memory. If you are in pain, Hana will be in pain, too. Please keep the cheerful memory of Hana in your hearts.”
“She was a wonderful and gentle soul,” said New Japan Pro Wrestling in an official statement. “Our most heartfelt and deepest condolences go to her family, friends and fans at this time.”
This led to an immediate reaction in the U.S. pro wrestling community. Every promotion of any note, with the exception of WWE (although many of its talent did individually and Mauro Ranallo, because depression is a subject that hits very close to home with him, did mention her death on his own on NXT on 5/27 and pleaded for an end to cyber bullying) almost immediately expressed their sorrow. Although she had never worked for AEW, Excalibur gave a memorial speech on the company’s PPV show the next day, including hoping that this would a lesson for people to be nicer to each other. Her name was mentioned several more times during the broadcast.
“In 2016, I was on vacation in Japan and Rocky Romero put me in contact with Kyoko Kimura to go train while there,” said ROH performer Brody King. “She had me meet her at the train station outside of Tokyo to go to the Ice Ribbon dojo to train. That’s when I met Kyoko and her aspiring pro wrestler daughter, Hana.
“From the moment I met them, they treated me like I was family and not like an unknown Gaijin stranger. Hana was kind, friendly and you could tell how close she was with her mother. After a couple of training sessions I said goodbye to Hana, not knowing if our paths would ever cross again.
“Flash forward to 2019. I’m standing on the floor of Madison Square Garden staring at the empty arena taking it all in, when I hear a voice scream, `BRODY!’ I look to my left and a beautiful pink-haired Japanese girl ran up and hugged me. Once I was able to see her face, I realized it was Hana.
“That moment was surreal to me. Two people from different parts of the world hoping to make it are now standing together in the world’s most famous arena living our dreams. You were too good for this world, Hana. This one hurts.”
“I remember attending a Shin-kiba show in Stardom and hanging out backstage,” wrote Will Ospreay. “After the show, I was waiting around and watching a video on my phone. For the life of me, I can’t remember what I was watching, but Hana popped her head out and said, `Hey Ospreay, what are you watching.’
“She sat next to me and watched this video on my phone for like five minutes, and as it finished, she said, `I don’t understand.’ I laughed at looked at her and said, `Why did you stay then.’ She replied, `I wanna be with Ospreay.’
“The girl had no idea what was being said on the video but wanted to keep my company while I was on my own. We don’t speak the same language but she cared so much about everyone she met. Treasure the memories that bring a smile to your face. I love you so much Hana, you brightened up every day I saw you.”
The reaction was strongest among women performers across all promotions, some of whom knew her directly from competing in Japan, or when she came to the U.S. with ROH. All who followed the business knew of her. The nature of the death hit a cord in particular women performers in wrestling, who all at one time or another are harassed by fans on social media. Men are as well, but often with women it’s tougher because it’s such as cosmetic business for women still, and no matter what, nearly everyone gets harassed over their looks which can lead to all kinds of different reactions, usually not positive.
For others who knew her from working with her, it wasn’t so much the enragement about the issue of cyber bullying, but losing a close friend.
“Thanks you for teaching me Japanese, teaching me Japanese dances, always checking (if) I’m okay, for being my translator,” wrote Xia Brookside. “Most importantly, thank you for being there and making me laugh. It’s so hard to be away from home, but you made Japan feel like home.”
“Legit, my first day at Stardom, she was the most welcoming cause she had the best English out of the entire locker room,” wrote Session Moth Martina. “She loved talking to the gaijin’s to improve her English. I looked forward to seeing her every show. I’m truly heartbroken right now.”
“Famous people are people too,” Martina continued. “Everyone has feelings and they can all be hurt. People can have thick skin, but it’s only so thick before it penetrates. Be careful with your words, you have no idea how much words can hurt.”
“It absolutely breaks my heart how cruel people can be on social media,” wrote TNA champion Tessa Blanchard. “It was an amazing honor to know Hana Kimura. She was an amazing girl with the kindest soul and immense passion and work ethic. I'm at a loss of words over this tragedy. Rest In Peace my friend.”
“Distraught. I don't even know what to say or feel. Numb. I can't express it. RIP Hana Kimura,” said AEW wrestler Jamie Hayter. “Such a wonderful human being. The gaijin helper. All the potential. A beautiful soul. Kind. I just can't even put in to f***ing words how upsetting this is. I hope you found peace."
“My heart hurts so much right now, I just don’t want to believe it,” wrote Leyla Hirsch, who wrestled in Stardom earlier this year. “Hana was such an amazing, beautiful, kind, soul. When I first got to Stardom, it was Hana that made me feel welcomed. She was always upbeat and always willing to take care of us. She was a lot of fun to be around. Even though I never got to compete against Hana, I was so lucky to have been fighting by her side the whole time I spent in Japan. She was always patient with me, even when I couldn’t get the , `Yes, Sir.” (Chant)
In Japan, there was a different reaction, with it more geared toward the subject of Cyber bullying, where she became the immediate poster child so to speak for legislation that was talked about very quickly after her death.
In addition, “Terrace House,” canceled the remainder of this season and there is some question whether the show will ever return.
“We would like to express our sincere condolences for the death of Hana Kimura, who appeared on the program (Terrace House),” said a statement made by the Fuji TV Network. “We also deeply mourn the bereaved families. Regarding Terrace House: Tokyo: 2019-2020, we have decided to stop recording, broadcasting and distribution on FOD in the future. We take this issue very seriously and would like to continue to earnestly respond to it.”
Sanae Takaichi, Japan’s Minister of Internal Affairs and Communications on 5/26 said he wanted to speed up government discussions around legislation regarding the issue of cyber bullying. In particular they were looking at whether Internet posts could be prosecuted for slander or defamation.
Takaichi said procedures are needed to disclose information on senders in order to curb online abuse and rescue victims. He said that the government plans to revise existing laws quickly to simplify procedures to identify individuals who make defamatory posts online. He is aiming for draft legislation before the end of this year.
Japanese law allows the victim of abusive posts to ask Internet service providers to disclose information on senders and permits damages to be leveled, but the law is considered weak and of little consequence in practice. Victims have to go through court proceedings to identify abusers which can take six months to a year, and includes very costly legal fees. Plus, service providers often claim not to have saved the records. It’s even more difficult when it’s Twitter, because it’s based outside of Japan and it’s almost impossible for Japanese police to investigate.
Yoshihide Suga, the Chief Cabinet Secretary, expressed condolences to Kimura’s family and said, “It is important to improve literacy on the Internet so that users won’t use comments to hurt others with slander.”
Yukio Hatoyama, the former Prime Minister, expressed sympathies to Kimura and called for legal remedies against cowardly anonymous cyber bullies.
This follows a similar situation in South Korea after the suicide deaths of famous K-pop singers Sulli, on 10/14, at the age of 15, and Goo Hara, on 11/24, at the age of 18.
Even at her young age, before her suicide, Sulli had been outspoken about her own mental health issues that worsened due to what she called malicious online rumors and comments. She was co-hosting a show called “The Night of Hate Comments” and read out hateful messages about herself while trying to blow them off and laugh about them, but was public about her pain.
South Korean lawmakers began to draft legislation after her death. It led to some major South Korean online news platforms to limit reader comments on celebrity news.
After Kimura’s death, numerous people who had harassed her on social media began deleting their accounts, while media reports
Stardom received condolences from all walks of life in Japan, from politicians to business leaders major sports and entertainment celebrities, including Chicago Cubs star Yu Darvish (who is married to former multi-time world champion amateur wrestler Seiko Yamamoto, the sister of Kid and Miyuu).
Rossy Ogawa, the founder and head of Stardom, said they are, as a company, considering taking legal action against malicious cyber bullying.
But this also becomes a freedom of speech and freedom of expression issue.
“There are no words that could possibly heal this wound,” said Ronda Rousey, whose life has been filled with some of the most intense cyber bulling of anyone in the sports world over the last eight years, particularly in her early UFC days when so many desperately wanted to her fail as a fighter and as a drawing card, and later from her portrayal as a coach on a season of The Ultimate Fighter. “Cyber bullying is a very real and growing threat to us all as a society. Even a straw’s weight can be the one to break a camel’s back. I didn’t personally know Hana Kimura, but it’s still very painful to learn about what happened.”
But another close friend of hers, who did not want to talk for this article, said that even while well intentioned, they were not happy that people were using her death for their own purposes, and only interested in talking about her because she took her own life. Others echoed the same feeling, noting her death becoming the lightning rod for people talk about cyber bullying.
Stardom had been planning on taping empty arena matches this week, which would start airing on its streaming service on 5/29. Out of respect to her and the talent, the company is taking a period of mourning this week and is expected to start doing empty arena shows next week.
Kimura was always around pro wrestling growing up, attending her mother’s matches when they were in the Tokyo area. She trained at the Wrestle-1 school and made her official debut on March 30, 2016, for that promotion, shortly before her 19th birthday.
She won the JWP jr. title on September 18, 2016, defeating Yako Fujigasaki in a tournament final. She worked as a free agent in a number of different companies until signing with Stardom 14 months ago.
Her first match with Stardom was on September 22, 2016, on a major show at Korakuen Hall. She teamed with her mother and Kagetsu to beat Momo Watanabe & Jungle Kyona & Mayu Iwatani.
Her second match in Stardom saw the same threesome win the Artist of Stardom (trios) championship from Io Shirai & Kairi Hojo (Kairi Sane) & Iwatani at Shinkiba, the home base of the promotion, on the show’s main event.
She was injured in January and the titles were vacated.
She returned on January 22, 2017, for a show promoted by her mother, called “The Last Afro,” which was her mother’s retirement show. Kyoko Kimura, who remains around pro wrestling constantly because she has a food truck business and parks in front of the arenas at many of the Tokyo shows, was noted for her wild afro hairstyle. The show drew 1,028 fans to Korakuen Hall, a big number for a woman’s show at that point in time..
In the main event, Kyoko & Hana teamed with Isao in a losing effort against three legends of the business, Minoru Suzuki & Aja Kong & Meiko Satomura. But after the main event ended, Kyoko asked for one last match, against her daughter. In an emotional farewell, in a ceremonial passing of the generation torch, Hana pinned Kyoko in 4:01 to end her mother’s career.
While still green as a worker, because of the emotion from that scene and her family name, along with her look, Hana Kimura was an immediate star as a pro wrestler.
She was part of the Oedo Tai group in Stardom. She & Kagetsu won the Goddesses of Stardom (tag titles) over Kyona & Hiroyo Matsumoto on June 21, 2017, at the Galaxy Stars show. They held those titles until June 3, 2018 losing to Iwatani & Saki Kashima.
In 2018, she first worked overseas for ROH in the U.S. and Pro Wrestling Eve in the U.K. She split from Kagetsu and left Oedo Tai in an angle on September 24.
In April, 2019, she became the leader of a heel group called the Tokyo Cyber Squad. On May 16, 2019, she, Kyona & Konami won the Artist of Stardom trios titles over Iwatani & Kashima & Tam Nakano. They lost the titles back to the previous champions on June 23, 2019.
When Bushiroad purchased the promotion from Rossy Ogawa, the word from the top was to make Kimura and Giulia into the top stars. Kimura won the Five-Star Grand Prix tournament, beating Konami in the finals on 9/22 at Korakuen Hall. This set her up to challenge World of Stardom champion Priestley on 10/14 at Korakuen Hall, a match she lost in 21:47.
It was clear that she had made substantial improvements in the ring during 2019.
Bushiroad, in trying to expose the product and start what was going to be the main focused program for big events this year, teamed Giulia & Kimura against Iwatani & Arisa Hoshiki on New Japan’s 1/4 Tokyo Dome show in a dark opening match. While the show itself sold out with 40,008 paid and about 44,000 total in the building, it was early and it was likely closer to 35,000 when her match opened the show at 4 p.m. Still, it was a far cry from the type of audience she was used to. The crowd was polite, but not emotionally invested in the match. It was clear the audience knew her and considered her the biggest star of the four, some knowing her from pro wrestling, other fans who had no interest or knowledge of women’s wrestling knew her from Terrace House.
The angle was she and Giulia losing and splitting up to start their program.
They had opposed each other in tag matches, but had not gotten to the singles match when things shut down. Kimura’s last match was on Stardom’s last show, the one-night single-elimination Cinderella tournament on 3/24 at an empty Korakuen Hall. Kimura and Iwatani went to a no contest, eliminating them both, in each woman’s first tournament match.
Here's Rossy's tweet about the funeral
Here's Hana's mother, Kyoko Kimura's tweet requesting to stop the hate spiral
DDM members playing with Hana's cat -https://twitter.com/syuri_wv3s/status/1266971303027736576
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